Barth K150 Draining Machine

Vintage Tractor Engineer has been out and bought a new County tractor toy!

Barth K150 draining machine

Barth K150

We’ve been searching the magazines and internet for a couple of years to find a trenching machine to lay drainage pipe on our farm.  We’ve replied to several adverts and each time we got the same answer – “Sorry, it sold immediately”.

View from cab of barth trenching machine

View from the drivers seat, digging chain lifted up.

Trenchers are clearly in demand and this is probably due to a number of contributing factors.  We’ve had several high rainfall years in the UK and with larger tractors and machinery, compaction has caused waterlogging of the fields.  I think the major problem, however, is the lack of maintenance of the agricultural drainage system and the fact that most of the field drains were installed many years ago.  Draining is an expensive business and farmers are reluctant to spend the money, particularly when farm incomes have been so depressed.

Things have begun to change though.  Farm incomes have been a little better in 2007-2009 and farmers have been calling in the drainage contractors to try and improve their wettest ground.  Much of the drainage system is at least 35 years old and some fields are still reliant on drains installed 100 years since (or more).  These drainage systems have had fantastic longevity and some of these are still working to this day.  Unfortunately many of these pots are only in at a shallow depth and the large heavy machinery and deeper working depths have sometimes cut through these drains and ruined the system.

Barth K150

The ‘K150′ numbering refers to the digging depth of 150cm and this machine was manufactured in 1982.  The machine is built around a County skid unit with a reduction box fitted to facilitate the low ground speeds required for trenching.  This particluar machine was first used by Alderson Drainage of Yarm, North Yorkshire and still bears their decals.  A quick telephone call to Aldersons was made and we learnt all sorts of things.  Aldersons were really interested to hear about the machine, where it was now going to work, and it was a pleasure to talk to them.  It its heyday the trencher had covered 300,000 metres annually.  The only reason Aldersons sold the machine was because in the Yarm area they have stone to contend with in the soil and this would cause the top drive shaft to break.  We will be using the Barth in predominantly sand and loam (no stones), and we were told the ‘little Barth’ would motor on just like a modern big Mastenbroek.

Barth k150 trencher, tracked drainage machine

Bonnet decals, Alderson Drainage.

If you’re interested in County tractors converted into draining machines then check out Alf Werner’s County 1124 that he converted to 6 wheel drive and uses for operating his trencher.  Quite impressive!

County tractor reduction gearbox

County reduction box.

Well we can’t wait to take it to the field and have a go.  I’m sure it’s going to be a bit of a learning curve to start with but it will be really useful to have our own machine.   We will be able to do a field each summer after the corn has been cut, in good dry conditions and with full control of the operation.  Next thing we need is a laser.  We’ve been quoted £1150 for an ‘indicate’ system, but to go for full ‘machine control’ the price has come in at over £3,000.  This technology would have been £10,000 so I suppose it’s not so bad for +/- 2mm accuracy.

Digging chain and chute of a draining machine

Digging chain and pipe chute.

One thing we can’t get to the bottom of is what to do in running sand?  The vale of York has large areas of sandy soil and in winter time if you dig a hole the sand is so saturated that it just runs like quick sand and the problem is that it can very easily and quickly get into the drains and block them.  It is possible to buy pipe wrapped with a filter material to prevent this from happening, but neighbouring farmers have found this to block with ochre within 3-4 years.  Some people say unwrapped pipe is OK if the ‘black’ topsoil is put back on top of the pipe (instead of the orange subsoil).  Others say use unwrapped pipe and then 10″ of stone on top works the best.

If you have any experience of draining in running sand and know what works best then please let us know.  We would be interested to hear your views.

Engine Reconditioning, Comiskey Engineering Works

Vintage Tractor Engineer is often asked to recommend a good engine reconditioning shop for our DVD customers.  That’s easy if you live in the North East of England because we can recommend our local engineer who is very good, but what if you live in other parts of the world?

Can You Recommend An Engineer?

First of all, if you have an engineer in your area who you have found to do a good job then please leave your recommendation and their details in the comments box below.  This can be useful for anyone who is just starting out in the tractor restoration hobby.

Comiskey Engineering Works

We had an email recently from Robert Eakins.  Robert is one of our DVD customers and has used both the Engine Rebuild DVD and the Hydraulics DVD to renovate his FE35 Gold and Grey, Robert wrote…

“my FE35’s engine is totally rebuilt and running like a watch,hydraulic pump etc the same. Thank you very much for the help.”

Robert kindly went on to tell us about his local engineers, Comiskey Engineering Works, Mahon Industrial Estate, Portadown, Northern Ireland.  It was here that Robert had the major works done to the engine and also had the head bored for heater plugs…

“On the difficulty of starting the 23C engine, I thought you might like to know that I got the head bored for heater plugs by the same guys here in Portadown that did all the engine work.  It is a routine procedure for them,and they have a jig for it.  I then fitted Peugeot 106 heater plugs and Bingo! 3 seconds of heat and it starts no matter what!”

Comiskey come highly recommended by Robert and are able to do all routine engine work such as…

  • pressure testing
  • head skimming
  • valve and seats re-cut
  • crankshaft re-grinds
  • blocks re-bored
  • shim setting
  • rethreading
  • broken stud removal
  • aluminium and cast iron welding

MF35 Slow Hydraulic Lift

Stuart is having trouble with the hydraulics on his tractor. Here is what he has to say…

I have a MF35 tractor. The hydraulic lift pump seems to be operating slow when using the hydraulics to lift the ram on my tilt trailer. I have been advised to check the strainer. I was given a photo copie of the lift pump with strainer, but when I pulled off the side plates to look for it, the lift pump looks different and there is no strainer to be found.The photo copied info is for a MF 35 like mine.Is there any one that might know what I am doing wrong I would be grateful for any info. thanks.

Stuart

Hi Stuart,

The early tractors didn’t have a filter on the pump.

The next (easiest and least expensive) thing to check would be the o’rings on the stand pipe. There is a small cap under the seat (under front right hand side of seat). If you remove this cap there is a stand-pipe under there which you can pull out. Check the condition of the o’rings and replace if necessary – this is a common place for oil to leak. The stand pipe takes oil from the pump and up into the lift cylinder.

If that doesn’t help then you will probably have to remove the top hydraulic cover and take a look inside. There could be a whole host of reasons as to what is causing the problem. A faulty pressure relief valve is a possiblity, or otherwise the control valve or wear in the pump itself.

The hydraulic system is quite complex, but it is only a mechanical system, so anyone can refurbish the system.  It isn’t really possible to email you the details of what to do, as it is so complex, but if you need it then the Hydraulics DVD shows 2 hours of tutorials of what to do to get the system working as it should.

Steve (VTE).

MF35 or 35X?

One of our readers, Nick, has sent in a query about his tractor.  Nick is having problems sourcing the correct tractometer cable and is also trying to identify which model he has.  Can anyone help?

Here’s what Nick has to say about his tractor…

Happy New Year All, My lovely wife bought me a MF35X with 9 attachments in a job lot and now tinkering with my main “Toy”, I cannot positively ID it as either an MF35 or MF35X. Issue now is, tacho cable is missing and I’m trying to get the right parts. The output end is off the camshaft that is a 1/2″ shaft with a 3/16″ slot as if to take a flat bladed tacho cable end. Yet the ‘new’ supplied part has a 2mm sqr section each end. There is now confusion as to which engine I have. To solve the problem, the experts supplied a tacho drive shaft which is a small fitting comprising a small rod with a 3/16″ slot, drilled through with a 2mm sq section hole. The end of this item has milled flutes as if to slot into the end of the camshaft. However, there is no way I can install it into/onto the existing camshaft end.  The Engine S/N is 11229031 (too many numbers?) stamped on the rear end of engine block and also stamped on lower LHS of the block. Beneath the rear end serial number is stamped MDA DE91. Cast into the block on the lower LHS is GKN 1615 (no following letter). I have often assumed that many older engines have a country of origin letter incorporated within the S/N or casting number. After reading your great forum, I can also advise the tractor HAS grease nipples in the front hubs, HAS diff lock, HAS pre-combustion chambers, HAS small rear mud guards, HAS 1700 RPM as the PTO speed (540), HAS head lamps low on either side of bonnet, HAS a changed dynamo bracket, but does not have Multi-Power. Dash has ammeter, tacho and oil pressure gauges.  What engine/tractor do I have?

Cheers,

Nick,
Pelverata Tasmania. Oz.

Can anyone help Nick? Please leave a comment.

Massey Ferguson 135 Restoration DVD

PAL format DVD. Please read this if you are in Canada or USA for info about NTSC.

 
MF135 Restoration DVD

MF135 Restoration DVD

£24.95

Get some jealously-guarded secrets from top tractor restoring experts…

 

“Learn how to turn a tired old

tractor

into a show condition machine”

 

Watch the full restoration of a Massey Ferguson 135 tractor, from barn find to show stopper!

If you are interested in restoring tractors then this DVD shows you all the steps that you need to go through.  Learn how to do many of the common mechanical repairs as well as the body panel renovations and painting.  Although based around a Massey Ferguson 135, the restoration process shown can be applied to any model of tractor.  It explains the decisions to be made when trying to preserve originality and how this can effect the value of the tractor.

What you get…

  • full restoration process
  • decision to replace or restore body panels – keeping authenticity
  • techniques to cut out and replace rusted parts of body panels
  • panel beating
  • shot blasting techniques, including working pressures
  • using filler
  • sanding techniques
  • painting
  • adding decals
  • replacing oil seals on half shafts
  • removing and fitting new bearings on rear axle
  • easy method to remove steering wheel
  • removing and refitting hydraulic top cover
  • replacing cross shaft and bushes (keeping it authentic of course!)
  • splitting tractor to replace rear crankshaft rope oil seal
  • re-bushing knuckle joints on linkage
  • bleeding fuel system
With 3.5 hours of footage recorded onto 2  discs, there is almost too much content to list!

This DVD is the best general tractor restoration film that Vintage Tractor Engineer has ever seen.  The programme runs for 3.5 hours and covers all the issues facing a restorer.  It shows the full restoration from start to finish and discusses the issues that a restorer faces such as the decision to repair/restore original parts or replace with new parts.  We are shown how to do all the tasks listed above in more than sufficient detail to undertake the tasks proficiently.

+++++   Highly Recommended +++++

The Vintage Tractor Engineer Team

 

The Massey Ferguson 135 is one of the most desirable tractors for an enthusiast to have in his/her collection. This DVD from Reborn Tractor show all the MF135 specific information such as looking for the correct Butler lamps, wheel rims etc. that is needed to keep your tractor as original and authentic as possible. The DVD is a must for any 135 restorer.

The DVD is suitable for any tractor enthusiast who is interested in restoration.

£24.95