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Ferguson FE35 Golden Grey

 

The Ferguson FE35 (Massey Harris Ferguson Company) was manufactured from 1956 until part way through 1957 when production continued under the Massey Ferguson badge and red and grey livery of the MF35. The FE35 was painted in a distinctive contrast of grey tinwork and wheels with golden castings. These distinctive colours gave the tractor a list of names by which the machine became known…..

…..Grey Bronze, Golden Grey, Gold Bellies, Grey & Gold, Gold Standard, Golden Belly, Golden Bird, Goldbauch (Germany).

The diesel powered tractors were fitted with a Standard 23C engine, which were notoriously difficult to start – particularly as the engines have become worn over the decades.  Owners of the diesel tractors may find our MF35 (23C) Engine Rebuild DVD helpful, along with some other tips we have on how to improve starting performance…

Enlarging Pre-Combustion Chambers

Injectors

23C Fuel Pump, Aligning The Circlip

 

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The FE35 had some notable improvements over the preceeding TE range, including independent brakes, dual lever control of the hydraulic lift and deluxe versions were equipped with live p.t.o. and hydraulics. This live p.t.o. feature transformed the usfulness of the tractor as the p.t.o. speed was now independent of the forward speed, this been useful for tasks such as muck spreading, root crop harvesting, baling etc. One reader has sent in his ploughing memories using one of these tractors.


The serial numbers are preceeded by three letters.

The first letter denotes the chassis type (S=standard, V=vineyard, J=industrial)

The scond letter denotes the engine (G=petrol, H= high altitude petrol, D= 23C diesel, N= 3-A-152 diesel, K=vapourising oil)

The third letter denotes variation (F=single clutch, M=dual clutch)

Data specifications and torques are as for the Massey Ferguson 35.

It is the distinctive silver and gold Ferguson badge that really finishes off this distinctive colour scheme.

fe35-badge

Comments…..

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clyde says:

July 26th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
I have a 1957 MF 35 four cylinder diesel. The engine is the “Standard Motor diesel” 23c model.I have rebuilt the engine (no small feat). And every thing came APART very nicely. Well, except for timing the fuel injector pump. I have asked a host of well meaning mechanics all to not avail. Is there any one who could help me with that timing chain and camshaft (which drives the fuel injector pump. :::::::Clyde::::::

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Steve says:

July 28th, 2007 at 9:12 pm
Hi Clyde,
Sure we can help you out. We’ll e-mail you some help some time over the next few days.

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Alan says:

August 22nd, 2007 at 1:00 pm
I too have a FE35 and am busy redoing the motor as it was spewing oil. Its a Vaporising oil motor, at least I think so because the carb has a 1578 stamped on it. Is there any other way of identifying the actual motor? I also see the only difference would be the S.R. Jet which is a 80 and on the petrol version is a 70.
Another question is can one drive this tractor on Lead replacement petrol continuously. I have done so since I had the motoe and don’t know if that was the cause for the failure.
And one last question, is the colour scheme Grey Gold or Grey Copper? Here in South Africa it was also known as the “Koperpens” Copperbelly. Mine does actually look more like copper and not gold or bronze.

Thanks for any replies.

Alan

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Steve says:

September 9th, 2007 at 7:35 am
Hi Alan,
The VO, lamp oil and petrol engines are the same basic block (denoted 87mm bore engine. Different carbs are used with varying arrangements of SR jets.

Petrol – Zenith type 28G carb, (3 different versions)
1. C1542 SR jet 70
2. C1575 SR jet 55
3. C1608 SR jet 70

VO or lamp oil version – Zenith type 28G carb
1. C1575 SR jet 55
2. C1578 SR jet 80

The other way to check the engine is through the serial number code. The first letter in the code will be S – standard, V – vineyard or J for industrial. The second letter in the code denotes the engine type G – petrol, H – high altitude petrol, D – 23C diesel, N – 152 Perkins diesel, K – vapourising oil, L – lamp oil. The 3rd letter in the code denotes the clutch type F – single clutch, M – dual clutch. The serial number is on the plate on the dash pannel.

The VO and lamp oil engine are fitted with a thermostat to provide a hotter engine than for petrol only, this assists in the vapourising of the heavier fuel. If running on petrol only we would suggest making sure it has the correct petrol thermostat fitted. The thermostat fitted to ordinary petrol engines is 65-67 deg C (stamped on the thermostat). VO and lamp oil engines it will be a 95 deg C thermostat.

So maybee you have been running on petrol with the incorrect thermostat and the engine has been getting too hot? Also remember that VO has a lubricating effect, wheras petrol doesn’t.

Hope that helps.

Steve.

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John Nelson says:

October 21st, 2007 at 8:23 am
hi there, i have a 1957 4 cyl 23c and have the same problem as Clyde here.i have done up eng and marked every thing i have pulled apart but i want to mark sure the marks are in the right place,eg timing of cam and injector pump, seems to be no factory marks to go by,hope you can help, Thanks John.

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

October 22nd, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Hi John,

We always try to answer any questions and comments from the website, however
it is a very tricky operation to time these engines.

Trying to describe it in an email is almost impossible.

Our MF35 Engine Rebuild DVD explains how to time the engine and it is much
easier to follow when you see it done on the television screen.

I feel a little unhelpful by just suggesting that you buy the DVD, but it’s
probably the best way of showing you how to do it.

Steve.

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chuck says:

October 29th, 2007 at 11:30 pm
i recentley bought a fe 35 with the 23c engin i have a small hole in the transmission belly pan looks like some one drilled it when the tractor warms up it leeks a lot of oil from this hole any ideals as to why or where the oil is comming from?

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

November 1st, 2007 at 4:24 pm
Hi Chuck,

The hole is factory made. If it’s coming out of the splitpin hole in the clutch housing it can either be engine oil or transmission oil. Take the panel off underneath and look in with a torch to see if there is an obvious source of the leek. Either way you will need to split the tractor between the bellhousing and the clutch housing to replace the leaking seal. You will probably/possibly need to replace the clutch if any oil has got onto it.

Hope that helps,

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David Baker says:

November 2nd, 2007 at 3:42 am
Hello, the 3x point linkage and front loader on my 1957 4x cylinder diesel Mf35 have stopped working, all happened out of the blue, just worked one day then not. I changed the oil which was quite milky, front loader went up once then no more. 3x point kind of tries to rise (judders)but has no power. Any pointers as to where to start looking.? Best regards David.

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

November 5th, 2007 at 8:39 pm
Hi David,

First question is does the PTO work. If it does not then there is no drive getting through to the hydraulic pump, which would mean either problems in the clutch or rear end drive. If it is trying to lift a little bit then the above is unlikely to be the problem.

The most likely reason for your problem is that the control valve is sticking. If you take off the right hand side cover (where the transmission oil dipstick is) you will see a lever stuck up out of the oil reservoir with
a small roller on it. Try working it backwards and forwards a few times to try and free it. The spring will return it to the correct position after you have done this. Next run the tractor with the side cover still off. Put the position lever to lift and look inside to the oil reservoir. You will be able to see some slight agitation of the oil because of the rotation of the pump shaft drive; if there is any signifficant turbulence or spraying of oil would mean that there is a leaking pipe/burst o’ring etc.

I suspect the most likely cause of your problem is the stuck control valve.

If freeing the control valve releaves the problem for a while, but then it re-occurs, you may have a scratched control valve or corrosion in it. The milky oil (caused by water in the system) is likely to have accelerated the deterioration of the component. This is why the manufacturer recommends changing the oil every 12 months even if the tractor has not done many hours
of work. In fact the less regularly the tractor is used, then the greater
the necessity to change the oil every 12 months.

Hope that info helps make your diagnosis. If the control valve needs to be remove, then watch out for our MF35 Hydraulics Repair DVD to be released early in 2008 which will be of help to you.

Click this link to see what happened with this FE 35 tractor hydraulics problem.

Steve, VTE.

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Kevin Tobin says:

November 7th, 2007 at 8:50 am
Hi, The info might be on here somewhere, but I’ll ask in case. I’m new to this vintage tractor game!
I have an FE35 petrol and I have lost the oil through the spool. What oil spec do I need to replace it?
Thanks
Kevin

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

November 7th, 2007 at 6:59 pm
Kevin,

The transmission oil should be 30.28 litres (6.6 imp gallons)of SAE 50 oil. This is for an oil temperature of 43-60 deg C. If the oil is usually cooler than this then it would be acceptable to use a lighter grade of oil. In practice a modern universal tractor oil of 15/30 or 15/40 will be OK in most conditions.

Steve.

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Alan Fisher says:

November 11th, 2007 at 9:07 am
I have a MF35 with the 23C four-cylinder diesel engine. While these engines never started easily, this engine is getting particularly hard to start. I have heard that it is possible to fit a different starter motor, which turns the engine over faster than the original starter motor, and ths improves starting. Does anyone knoew if this is true, and if so, what starter motor can be fitted?

Thanks for your help
Alan

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

November 11th, 2007 at 5:25 pm
Alan,

We’ve no first hand experience of changing the starter motor, but I’ve heard that the starter from a Ford 5000 fits. Maybee a better avenue to explore would be Sparex – I understand that they used to do a 3kW HD starter to fit the 23C engine.

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Michael says:

January 13th, 2008 at 8:06 pm
Where could I obtail the DVD mentioned above which shows how to set the timing on the diesel 23c engine?

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

January 14th, 2008 at 4:43 pm
Hi Michael,

All the info about the DVD is on this page.

Steve.

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loek korssen says:

February 2nd, 2008 at 1:58 pm
Hi there,
I recentley bought a FE 35 with the serialnumber 107 291
Can You tell me in wich year this machine is manufactured?
Thanks for Your help.

Loek

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

February 5th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Hi Loek,

You can find all that information on the Serial Number page.

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Haukur Júlíusson says:

February 13th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
Can anybody tell me when the old “Ferguson” logo in the front of the hood was changed to the well-known three triangular MF logo. I think it was in the year 1958, but when?
Best regards.
Haukur J
Hvanneyri
Iceland

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

February 14th, 2008 at 5:00 pm
Hi Haukur,

I have not got to the bottom of this either. I know that Massey-Harris and Ferguson merged on the 12th August 1953, and were known as Massey-Harris-Ferguson. The name officially changed in late 1957 to Massey-Ferguson (with a hyphen), but I understand that the hyphen was dropped early in 1958. I am under the impression that the Triple Triangle badge was first used early in 1958, but I do not know when exactly.

Also, though, the last FE35 was serial number 74655 which was produced in 1957 and the first MF35 was produced in 1957 at serial number 74656 (but did it have a Ferguson badge or a Massey Ferguson badge on the front??)

Anyone else know?

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Richard says:

February 19th, 2008 at 12:08 am
HI, I recently purchased an FE35 serial no 15265, I thought I had a grey and red one as I didn’t have a close inspection of it at the time,(as I paid only NZ$600) When I got it home I put clean fuel in it and a battery and away it went,no smoke,everything works!, but on closer inspection I noticed a lot of the grey paint flaking off to reveal the gold paint, I had no idea they produced a gold 35 untill I found this great web site. Now I wonder If I have a great piece of history to look after!
What I’m not sure of is why the gold was sprayd over in grey, it has the Ferguson 35 badge side and front, and why the panels are red, or is this an undercoat and the grey worn off. Also there are 3 MF badges (stick on) below the lights and on the seat.
Any help would be great
Thanks
Richard
New Zealand

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

February 19th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
Hi Richard,

The serial number of your FE35 dates the tractor early in 1957, and it souds like you’ve picked up a bargain. There seems to be quite a few FE35’s about that have been repainted grey/red – I don’t know why. The red paint is not an undercoat – if they are the original panels then you should find the grey paint underneath.

As for the gold paint; well actually gold is a bit of a misnomer, the actual colour is best described as copper. Also I understand that the grey is a slightly lighter colour than of that which is found on the TE20 Grey Fergies.

Everything should be painted the copper colour, with the exception of the bonnet assembly, the wings and the wheels. The axles should show through the wheels as copper, and the wheel nuts were originally grey.

These tractors are real head turners when they are in the original colours. Hope you get time to sort the paint job on this one.

Steve.

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

March 4th, 2008 at 6:35 pm
Bill has contacted us today to give the answer to Hauker’s question, here is what Bill says…

I saw your question asking when the MF “Triple Triangle was first used. According to an article in TRACTOR & MACHINERY MAGAZINE
(England) it first appeared on November 19th, 1957. I have a 1957 FERGUSON F-40 without the emblem and a late 1957 Massey Ferguson 50 WITH the emblem.

AT the unvieling of the new emblem a hyphen was used (MASSEY-FERGUSON) but shortly after, the hyphen dissapeared (MASSEY FERGUSON)

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CWDickinson says:

April 11th, 2008 at 5:50 pm
Dear sir, In answer to e mail no 20 ,I have a 1958 fe35 in red & metalic flint grey , 1st reg 24/6/1958, serial no sdm 102146 , this tractor was purchased from Lenfield eng kent ,reg no 822 ckr , massey haris ferguson on commission plate and badged ferguson on front of bonnet in one piece,all of badge chromed no colour in background of badge .Hope this is of use to you . regards hammer man.

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JOHN BALL says:

April 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Hi, I would like to know the cc of a FE35 23c diesel engine as I,am filling in a DVLA 55/5 for an age related registration number.
Regards John

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

April 24th, 2008 at 7:00 pm
John,

The 23C engine is 2259cc, or 137.89 cu ins.

Steve.

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chris ward says:

April 26th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
I have a fe 35 Ferguson engine no. sj13243ed. First sold in Scotland serial no. is not readable. I am trying to trace a registration number for this tractor, maybe someone could help me.

Regards

Chris

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chris stroud says:

May 12th, 2008 at 10:10 am
I have recently bought a restored FE35 Grey and Gold SDM 29018. I note your site with interest, particularly your detailed explanation of the years of manufacture and colour schemes. You say in one of your replies to another questioner that the gold is in fact more of a copper shade and that the grey is lighter than the preceding TE series. Would you happen to know the paint reference numbers and the names of any UK suppliers?

Many thanks.

Chris

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

June 4th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Hi Shane,

If you look on the lower right hand side of the dash panel near to the ignition key there should be a metal plate. The serial number will be on the bottom of the plate.

Steve.

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shane says:

June 7th, 2008 at 6:48 pm
the plate on the dash is gone how do i tell the year in which the tractor was made. thanks

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

June 8th, 2008 at 3:50 pm
There should be a date stamped on to the side of the transmission housing.
E.g. 21.3.57.

Steve

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peter o reilly says:

June 17th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
I bought fe35 over 12 months ago doing work myself.
She has a pick up hitch on rear i cannot for the life of me find a T bar for the three point linkage for operating the pick up hitch could you please help.
Im in ireland but willing to travel for it.
Thank you.

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

June 17th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Hi Peter,

Sorry to say that we haven’t got one at the moment, but have you tried the small ads in Tractor And Machinery magazine. Another suggestion is to look on ebay.

Steve.

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Irene Wilhelm says:

June 18th, 2008 at 8:53 am
Hello – I am on the search of the paint codes for the Grey/ Gold version. MF in Norway will not give me this code. Does any of you know what color codes to use?

Regards
I.Wilhelm
Norway

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Andy P says:

June 19th, 2008 at 6:52 pm
I have read that the NAPA codes are 99L3740 for the grey and 99N-22138 for the Bronze/Gold.

Andy.

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JOHN BALL says:

June 21st, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Hi, I have recently bought a FE35 Grey/Gold, dash panel has three clocks 1 Tractometer. 2 Oil pressure gauge. 3 Ammeter gauge. Should there be a temperature gauge on the panel, there does not seem to be a position for one.Regards John

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

June 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm
There isn’t a temperature gauge on the diesel tractors (or a sensor). Only the non-diesel variants have the temperature gauge.

VTE

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steven says:

July 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 am
I there i just a bought a frontend loader/backhoe base on a fe35 for my hobby farm.besides being base on a fe35 and haveing a 4 cylinder diesel i have no idea what year it was made and what model it is iam only going by the fe35 on the hour gauge. The complance plate has been pulled off i herd it has been made in france. iam sure its a fe35 but it has a different front body. steven.

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Garry Nowlan says:

August 5th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
Hi Guys,
Iam from Australia and bought a FE35 tractor a couple of months ago and need to confirm exact model so I can get the paint job right. The compliance plate cleary states FE35 just above the s/n, which is SDM 77754. This makes it a 1957 model. The Tractormeter clearly states FE35 at the bottom of the gauge. The transmission is clearly stamped 2.12.57. There are old decals on each side of the bonnet painted over but still visible stating “Ferguson 35?. So it should be an FE35. But according to the s/n table the FE35 was only manufactured to s/n 74955 then became MF35. As my s/n is 77754 this would make my tractor an MF35. But everything on the tractor says it is an FE35. However the date of manufacture at the end of 1957 might put it in the MF35 category. Can you tell my why an MF35 would be plated as FE35 or vica verca, and what colour should my model tractor be? It has a small heavy duty bumper bar at the front under the radiator, does that help? Hope you can assist.

Regards
Garry

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Nick says:

August 13th, 2008 at 2:23 am
Refer comment 20.
My ferguson plate is stamped FE35 and its serial number SDM74740 (23c engine) which is a later number than when you have advised they stopped the FE35’s. Any ideas as I’d like to buy a service manual. I have a couple of fuel drips leaking from the injector pump (I think that’s what it is)and I have no idea how to fix it !!

regards
Nick

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

August 15th, 2008 at 10:56 am
Hi Nick + Gary,

When the tractors changed from the FE35 (gold and grey paint) to the MF35 the plates were still stamped as FE35. In fact the plates continued to be stamped with FE35 – we have a 1962 MF35 3 cylinder which we purchased brand
new and it has FE35 on the plate. So I would suggest that yours is one of the first Massey Ferguson 35’s. It would seem that the first of the Massey Ferguson 35’s were painted red and grey, but still retained the Ferguson badges on the front and side of the bonnet – I imagine that yours will be like this. The Massey Ferguson badge didn’t appear until some time early in 1958. Look at this photo from late 1957 / early 1958.

The FE35 and MF35 4 cylinder tractors are mechanically identical, so the manual for either will be OK. I would definately recommend getting the proper Ferguson manual, as the ones produced by other companies are not as good. The Ferguson manuals are approximately twice the price, but well
worth it.

Hope that helps a little.

Regards,

Steve

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JOHN BALL says:

September 2nd, 2008 at 12:02 pm
Hi, I recently bought a FE 35 Grey/Gold which has had the engine rebuilt plus new diesel pump and injecters. When the engine has warmed up, if I leave it running at 800 revs it starts to hunt and then cuts out, no problem to start again if I open the throttle a bit. If I leave the engine running at 1200 revs there does not seem to be a problem. Could you diagnose what the problem is. Ps,It starts well with a little heat and ticks over at 300 revs when cold. Kindest regards JOHN

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Terry says:

October 3rd, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I believe i have a FE 35 Grey & Gold 4 cyl diesel. Can’t find serial #. If its on the metal tag on dash then I can’t read it. It has a tag 19.11.56 on right side of motor and stamps on gear box of 182.840 M1 and 183.253 M1 . Runs well, leaks a little diesal and needs new paint job. Steering arms really good. She’s been good for us for the last 8 years. I am thinking of selling, can you give me guide on price. I was thinking $3,500 ?

Thanks Terry (Yarra Valley, Melbourne, Australia.

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Jonas says:

October 4th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Hi there, I have the same problem Terry has, the number is not on the metal tag, and we need to know the place where it is stamped on the chassis as well, so we can show that to the registration office. Anyone know where to find it?

Thanks a lot,

Jonas (Belgium)

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Lewis Folb says:

October 8th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
I am in the process of buying an FE35 Grey Gold. It is in very good condition, having being rebuilt quite recently. I am in Australia and looking for an owners manual (not a workshop manual). Any ideas?

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Andy McLaren says:

October 11th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Good day.

Diesel is dripping badly from the injector pump on my grey/gold. I have successfully tightened the oval plate with gasket on the outer face of the pump – this has screws fitted. Leakage seems worse from the corresponding oval plate on the inner face of the pump but this is virtually impossible to access without removing the pump -so far as as I can tell this plate also has securing screws rather than hexagonal nuts. I have tried in vain with a right-angle screw driver. In removing the pump I am scared of upsetting the timing. Do you please have any suggestion that would avoid the need to remove the pump? Is a repair kit available for these injector pumps.

Also the tractor runs and pulls well but ‘breathes’ from the crank case pipe on the right side of the engine. Is there a possible cause other than simply a worn engine?

Many thanks. Andy (Hampshire UK)

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The Vintage Tractor Engineer says:

October 26th, 2008 at 7:05 am
Hi Andy,

Gaskets are available for the pumps. All you need to do to make sure that you don’t upset the timing is to note the position of the scribe mark on the pump mounting flange in relationship to any marks on the drive housing. If no marks are present then make one. You cannot get the shaft wrong because it has got a master spline.

As for the breathing. It can only come from either down the side of the rings or out of the valve guides (less likely. If it starts and runs OK, then I would just leave it as it is. Otherwise you would need an engine kit and rebuild.

Steve.

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tony shannon says:

January 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
just a note to answer any query on when the massey ferguson badge was first used. the first mf 35 was produced on the 5th of december 1957 but retained the ferguson badge until serial no. 107892 which was around june 1958. the six stud half shaft housing used on the gold belly model was used on the first 2972 mf tractors before being replaced with the 12 stud type. the old style bonnet with the push buton mechanism was used until 1959 at serial no. 141140.

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89 Responses to “Ferguson FE35 Golden Grey”

  1. Hi guys need help regarding my steering on my Grey/Gold Fergy i am placing the shaft back in to the nuckle of the steering box it has 28 ball bearings in the box. Do i grease the ball bearings and place them into the nuckle so the steering actually works ???
    Are there any links with pictures i can go too ??

    Brett

     
    • Brett
  2. Hi i wounder if anyone can help me. Ive recently picked up an fe35 for £300. Serial number is sdf 67325. And it was made in 1957. But i cant find out weather it should be grey an red or copper an grey. As it stands it has grey belly but ive flaked off some of the paint an it seems to be a copper colour. and same for the mudguards, they are red but underneath grey. What colour should it be :S ???

     
    • Sam
  3. I have recently bought a Grey Gold FE35 and would like to put a lighting kit on it. I was wondering what the correct Grey colour was to paint the new items. I was under the impression that it was Stonleigh Grey, the same as the TE20, but it looks so dark. Is this correct?

     
    • Matt
  4. Hi,
    I would like some advice and help trying to establish the correct identity of my tractor as to whether it is an grey/gold or an grey/red Ferguson 35. The tractor has the date of 27/11/57 stamped on the casting, its serial number is 77033. It has a six stud rear axle, push button bonnet and the 3 holes for the ferguson bonnet on the front. The tractors tin work appears to still show red and the massey ferguson 35 stickers are still visible. The serial number should date it to a red/grey if im correct, however iv read on your website that they didnt start building grey/reds until December ’57. Could the tractor be a grey/gold thats been painted up at the factory as red/grey at the end of the production line..Any help would be very much appriciated with this. Kind Regards Matt

     
    • Matt
  5. Hi, I have purchased your DVD on the 23C engine.
    Can you advise me of the name and telephone number of your engine re-manufacturer who is conversant with grinding the combustion chambers oversize. Many thanks

     
    • Neil Hammersley
  6. Hi Neil,

    We use Park Engineering, who are located at Malton, North Yorkshire…

    http://www.enginereconditioninginyorks.co.uk/

    Another Northern Ireland specialist is Comiskey Engineering, who I am told have a jig set up specially for the 23C engine…

    http://comiskeyengineeringworks.com/index.html

    We have never used Comiskey ourselves, but a few of the DVD customers have recommended them. We use Park Engineering regularly and the quality of their work is excellent.

    Hope that helps and that everything goes well with your engine. When you have completed the rebuild let us know how it runs in comparisson to before.

    Steve and Ian (VTE)

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  7. Neil got back to us with the result of the modification. The result was good and here is what he says…

    http://vintagetractorengineer.com/2010/10/enlarging-pre-combustion-chamber-aids-starting-standard-23c-engine/

    Steve.

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  8. Hi, please could anyone help me my fe-35 4cyl has started leaking diesel into the sump, i have disconnnected the lift pump so its not that. Does anyone have any ideas.

    Many Thanks,
    Richard

     
    • Richard
  9. Hi Richard,

    We recently had an injector that wasn’t spraying correctly. So instead of the diesel spraying and igniting it was dribbling down the cylinder and into the sump.

    We tested the 4 injectors, found the faulty one and rectified the problem.

    Steve.

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  10. I have just purchased a Massey Harris Ferguson with the VIN number SDM7493. The V5 states that it was first registered on 02-01-1957. It has a Red bonnet, rear mudguards and Grey wheels. The engine/gear box is Copper.
    I have no experience regarding historic tractors, I bought it to power a log splitter. Could you give me any information concerning original colour and where I could get a workshop manual. Regards Jim

     
    • Jim Aries
  11. In addition to previous I believe it is a MF35 or FE35. Regards Jim

     
    • Jim Aries
  12. Hi Jim,

    If you take a look at comment number 20 (above), you will see that the last FE35 was serial number 74655, produced in 1957.

    Lets presume that your dash panel and identification plate are original to the tractor. Then you indeed have a grey/gold tractor. Maybe the bonnet and wheels have been changed at some time in the tractor’s life.

    The serial number of your tractor can be cross referenced on this page…

    http://vintagetractorengineer.com/2009/01/mf35-fe35-mf35x-serial-numbers-and-year-of-manufacture/

    …this puts the date of manufacture at the latter part of 1956. It therefore follow that it was registered early in 1957.

    I beleive your tractor should be grey/gold in colour – which is such a fantastic colour scheme!

    As for the workshop manual, then I would suggest a genuine Massey Ferguson manual. In our experience the manuals produced by other companies do not contain all of the information necessary. The genuine manuals are more expensive, but worth the extra money I think. (It isn’t any good to have a workshop manual that only gives half of the figures, tolerances and specs – especially when working on the engine).

    Workshop manuals are available from several tractor parts suppliers, but we have just ordered a supply in which should be available for sale soon.

    Thanks for leaving the comment on the website. The website has become an information resource because we get comments from people such as yourself.

    Hope that helps,

    Kind Regards,

    Steve and Ian (the Vintage Tractor Engineers)

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  13. H,
    I’m in Australia and have a Massey Harris FE 35 SDM 25455 and on the carapace it has a date stamped 17.1.57 so I presume that was the build date in Coventry England. From your wonderful website I see, if I understand correctly, that these were sometimes painted red and grey with the gold belly. I can see this one has the remains of a gold belly and was painted red & grey. Should I stick to these colours? I’ve had an offer to buy it as it from someone who wants to do it up and resell it, but he isn’t a dedicated heritage minded fellow so I won’t part with it unless it’s going to someone who will restore it to the original. I would not know what it was worth anyway. I had the hydraulics redone a couple of years ago when we used it for slashing, but the mechanics told me it was an ME 35 so whether they did it properly is another matter. Now it won’t start, it’s been sitting undercover for a year, and I’ve had a friend take the fuel filter out and removed sludge from just about everywhere. The fuel is getting through until it gets to the fuel pump proper and yet it won’t ignite. I know this is very little to go on, but it used to work fine although we had to use aerostart to get it going. It has four cylinders and I know this is one of the drawbacks – my friend tried to jump start it by pulling it around with my other tractor – no battery – but I can’t understand how this would work.

     
    • Leone
  14. I have a Feguson FE 35 for sale anno 1957 Serialnr SKM62142.(Belgium)
    Regards,
    Demdirk

     
    • demdirk
  15. Hi Demdork,
    What I want to find out is why it won’t start, and from more reading on this site it seems I have a grey/gold FE 35 and want to restore it, remove the red paint and go back to the grey which is under the red paint. Is yours grey gold?

     
    • Leone
  16. No myne was I think a grey/gold but he was repaint in red. I can see the rims inside are grey and also the enginecap inside.

     
    • demdirk
  17. Hello,
    we bougt a massey furguson fe 35 with the serial number skm38475
    and motor number sg2677ed from date 7-6-57. It’s a petrol/benzine.
    Can you tell us if it is a gold/grey or not?

     
    • Geerts Steven
  18. Hi,

    Yes I would say it is a gold/grey tractor by the serial number and date 7-6-57

    Steve.

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  19. hi , my partner and i bought a fe35 which was painted red but found out it should be a grey/gold we are restoring it which so far going quite well and will be painting it back to grey / gold but have a query 1. what colour should the grill be grey or gold ?
    some pictures show them grey and some gold is there any way i can find out for sure which colour mine should be many thanks

     
    • karen
  20. I’m from Romania and sell fe 35, 4 cylinder, 48819 SDM series, good working condition, iMail veressigismund@yahoo.com

     
    • sigismund
  21. I worked on a farm in Sussex where, I was told, some of the first Grey / Gold 35s were used. It was said they were supplied directly by MF from Coventry. We were reclaiming land that had never been ploughed so they were worked hard. This would have been around 1956.
    We had 2 ordinary ones, with narrow front wheels, and one de luxe which had wider front wheels.
    I have a couple of black & white photos should anyone be interested (tractor at theale.co.uk).
    Incidentally I now do a lot of work in the former Yugoslavia, where MF 35s were manufactured under licence under the name IMT. There are a huge number still working (though all red, not grey), so I imagine spares would be easy to get – e.g. in Macedonia, Kosovo, Serbia etc.

     
    • David
  22. add to the above….
    One of the 35s had the registration TRW 387 which I believe is Coventry.
    And we also later got a 65 – again I have a B&W photo.

     
    • David
  23. For your database. I live in NSW, Australia and have an MF35 with casting date 28.11.57. The front badge is the Ferguson badge and it has been red/grey since my father bought it second hand around 1969. It had not been repainted at that time.
    The dataplate gives the serial number 78544 making it the 3888th off the line.

     
    • Bill Bishop
  24. Karen, the advertising brochure held at Museum Victoria (Melbourne Australia) shows the grill is grey like the rest of the sheet metal work (see link). I have been investigating these gold/grey tractors on every website I can find and it seems that many have been overpainted grey/red, especially in New Zealand and Australia. It makes me wonder if Massey Ferguson did this on import. I would be interested in others’ thoughts about this.

    http://museumvictoria.museum/collections/items/1505567/descriptive-booket-british-farm-equipment-co-ferguson-35-tractor-1955

     
    • Peter
  25. Leone, I cannot help you with the mechanicals of your diesel, but the tractor I have, which is also in Australia, has serial number SKM 26357 and gearbox casting 24.1.57 making it very close to yours in production. Mine is also body red and castings/engine grey and I have always assumed this to be the original colouring. As it has aged however, the gold/copper colour is definitely evident under the grey, and where the red is wearing or peeling off, the sheet metal work is clearly grey underneath. There seems to be many red/grey tractors which should be grey/gold according to their serial number, especially in Australia. Karen’s post also suggests hers is gold/grey overpainted grey/red, but does not indicate what country it is in.

     
    • Peter
  26. hi steve, where is the differential filler plug on an fe35?
    also what type of oil do I use to refill?

     
    • mick kirk
  27. hi guys ,
    i have a fe35 petrol , that have just restored after a few years .
    it ran great when i dimantled it but now it wont run .
    it has spark , it has fuel to the carb , spins over great , but won’t fire
    i note also there doesnt seem to have any fuel on the plugs ?
    plenty of compresion [ 100lb+ each ]
    any help please ?

     
    • Peter Ingram
  28. hi,
    i have a 35 serial number 117513 which i believe is 1958.
    i have since scraped some paint off the engine to reveal gold underneath.Also the bonnet is grey under the red and there are holes in both sides of the bonnet to suggest metal badges could be fixed.Everything points it towards it being grey/gold but the serial number says it should be red/grey.Did Massey Ferguson have stocks of chassis already painted gold and re-painted them to use stocks up after deciding to go red/grey same with bonnets etc.It is all very confusing can anyone shed any light on this. i think my tractor would look good with a gold belly and red bonnet
    kind regards
    ANDREW

     
    • Andrew
  29. I have a Massey Harris ferguson on the right side of the motor it’s stamped 12/10/4 any help on that thanks

     
    • Larry
  30. HI Guys

    Ok, im confused, you say the FE model was cancelled in -57 and replaced by the MF in -58?
    My Ferguson with serial SDM 124096 says its and FE, not an MF. I believe the plate is authentic and the color looks like its been red/grey but that could be wrong as it looks repainted on some occations.

    Can someone help me understand what model my Ferguson is and where and when it was made?
    Thankful for any help i can get.

    Johan

     
    • Johan
  31. Hi Johan,

    The identification plates on the dashboard all refer to the tractors as FE35, no matter what colour or age the tractor is. The ID plates were never changed, all saying FE.

    Regards,

    Steve.

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  32. Hi Everyone.
    Having just bought my first tractor i was quite excited to find out more about it. Plate missing on the body. It is a Gold/Grey and the engine seriel number begins with SG*****. Every thing I can see points to it being a Gold /Grey as the original paint can be seen both on the engine and transmission (gold) and the tinwork is Grey underneath the red oxide primer. The thing that throws a spanner in the works is that it has a Massey Ferguson badge on the bonnet. Any ideas

     
    • Paul Onslow
  33. Hi all,

    Just browsing through some questions/comments here and just to clarify that I fitted a new Ford 4000 starter to our FE35 4Cyl (22.8.57)…… It makes a tremendous difference, I only had to grind the necks down (vert slightly) of the starter bolts, (diameters on starter slightly smaller). But the tractor turns quicker and starts like a dream compared to before.

    Gerard

     
    • Gerard
  34. Hi Gerard,

    Thanks for letting us all know about this.

    Steve.

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  35. i want chamshaft for messay ferguson 35 and im in botswana near South Africa

     
  36. Hi Eunice,
    I presume you have a 23C engine (4 cylinder diesel)? We do not know of anyone who produces a new camshaft for these engines, so you would need to look for a second hand one.

    If it is a Perkins engine then new camshafts are available.

    Steve.

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  37. ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Hello! Friend I want to know the extent of the crankshaft standard please ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

    Please, you have to measure shaft, sends me via email ,,,,,,,,I have no catalog of measure,,,,,if you can help, thank you very much already

     
    • valdemir
  38. Hi Valdemir,

    The standard crankshaft journal measurements are 2.7520 – 2.7515 inches (69.901 – 69.888 mm).

    Similar tolerances for re-ground crankshaft to 0.010, 0.020, 0.030. 0.040 inches (0.254, 0.508, 0.762, 1.016 mm) undersize.

    Hope that helps.

    Steve.

     
    • Vintage Tractor Engineer
  39. Hi
    Stumbled on website looking for parts
    My fergy is SGM35743 date stamp looks like 27/5/57 it is grey red but underneath is definately gold, I thought it was rust. Still goes well although petrol a bit expensive. Going to clean her up a bit, do you think I should go grey/red or grey/gold. I am in Australia and guessing reading other comments that Model change came while still in transit or assembly so painted in new colors
    Great website already adjusted clutch
    Regards

    Glenn

     
    • Glenn
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